Wednesday, July 09, 2008

Oh, yeah.

If I had a quarter for every time someone asked me about Logos doing Migne's Patrologia Graeca over the years ... well, I guess I'd have about five bucks. But still, that's a lot! Maybe I'll get to cash in on it some day.

Why? Because Migne's Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series Graeca, Part 1 (Vols 1-18) is on prepub at Logos Bible Software.

This is big, and we want to do it—the whole blasted PG, all 161 numbered volumes (166 volumes in print). All of the text, not just the Greek parts. I spent the last week living in the first 18 numbered (20 in print) volumes to evaluate them and let me tell you there is some real cool stuff in there.

We can only do it if enough people are interested, though. So get thee to the prepub page, and sign up!

Update (2008-07-10): Rod Decker (NT Resources Blog) responds in the comments asking about the usability of "untagged" versions of the text. My basic response is that if one approaches a text primarily as a database, then this is a valid question. But overall, I'd say the texts themselves are valuable. The ability to look up citations of these fathers in lexica, commentaries and other studies (e.g. Drobner's Fathers of the Church (amazon.com)) is valuable. I can't tell you the times I've seen a citation in a footnote, sitting as a lonely, orphaned reference with no other content, that I've wanted to look up but can't (try reading Luke Timothy Johnson's Anchor Bible commentary on 1&2 Timothy without wanting to look one of these up). Reading the text is valuable too. I'd say that the Latin materials (dissertations, translations, etc.) are valuable even though they are largely inaccessible to many. But this is one of those big tasks of Biblical Studies* that just needs to get done, somehow, in some way. And this is the best way we can come up with to try to start that task. Maybe it'll work; maybe it won't. But we've got to try.

Tagging the PG Greek texts morphologically would be a large task. I won't say we (Logos) haven't thought about it, because we have. But since we're unsure how/if a task of that magnitude would work in a timely fashion in concert with the production of the first 20 volumes, we chose not to address the subject of "tagging" in the prepub description. We're more interested in first making the content available as text instead of as facscimile scans (which you can find in Google Books and perhaps other sources, though note these are not Logos' sources for the material). If there is support for that (already large) task then there may be support for further enhancement of the texts as well.


* Reminds me of a quote of Fred Danker in John Lee's book on the History of NT Lexicography. Danker is quoted as saying, "Scholar's tasks are not for sissies". I love that quote.

Post Author: rico
Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:00:17 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00) 

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Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:52:04 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
Now if you were to announce that these would be tagged texts, I'd likely order immediately! But I've had text versions of PG for a number of years and never found a profitable way to search/use them. Perhaps Logos (or you) has some ideas on how this might work for untagged versions of the texts?
Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:07:19 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
yeah! this is great!
Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:46:48 PM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
i'd volunteer to help tag them!
Monday, July 21, 2008 11:46:59 AM (Pacific Standard Time, UTC-08:00)
I imagine Logos has a script for tagging Greek text and with the NT it is merely a matter of doing by hand those words that are different Greek words but are spelled the same in some forms. With a corpus as massive as PG the amount of Greek vocabulary would increase greatly and the number of homographs would correspondinly increase. I think you may have a few grey hairs by the time you finished Mike.
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